Annie Duke (annieduke.com) was the first person I recorded for 15 Minutes, back in 2014, nearly two years before I got done deliberating/procrastinating and launched this thing. Here's what I wrote about my friend of 30+ years for Episode 5, where you can find that first conversation.
"Annie Duke is a poker legend - winner of a WSOP bracelet, the WSOP Tournament of Champions, and of the NBC National Heads’-up Poker Championship in 2010, among other accolades. She was also runner-up to Joan Rivers on Season Two of Celebrity Apprentice. Among other charitable endeavors, Annie is co-founder, along with Don Cheadle and Norman Epstein, of Ante up for Africa. Our first first guest who's been over the Wall of Fame and climbed back, Annie is now retired from both poker and TV and is now a professional speaker, decision strategist, and one of the founders and directors of How I Decide, a nonprofit dedicated to helping youth become skilled decision makers, both in school and out. You can find them at howIdecide.org. Last, and Annie would say, most important, she is the proud mother of four."
Now Annie is back with her first mainstream (as opposed to poker) book. Part cognitive- psychology inquiry, part how-to guide, Thinking in Bets, posits that if we think of life less as the proverbial game of chess and more like poker, with its greater uncertainty and more unknowns, and act (bet) accordingly, we will make better decisions. We talk about that idea in terms of everything from voting and engaging in political conversation to deciding on everything from whether to run a red light to momentous life decisions.
If you want to hear Annie recount her experiences with and thoughts on fame, go back and check out that earlier episode. We pretty much are completely OT re that fame stuff in this one.
(NOTE: At around 37:00 I refer to a poker book I once reviewed, but vaguely. It's Positively 5th Street by James McManus.)